in fact, that is proven in testing there's also an achievement gap between the united states and the top 5% of students here, but bigger disaggregated based on an unlawful or test scores or white our students are falling behind globally. we spent the night 22nd out of 29 countries. so really this affects everyone. whether you are from greenwich or westport where you are from heartland, this is a serious problem. >> it is safe to say that greenwich is one of the most -- one of the richest towns in america. >> guest: yes. right for the people have the do really well. >> guest: people are very lucky. c-span: they spent a lot of money on greenwich high school in education your community? >> guest: on the taxes? c-span: you hear all the time they spend more money in washington d.c. per student than any place or in austin. >> guest: the money is really important in some respects it's sort of a red herring because like you said if you break it down will come it doesn't seem to lead to higher or lower outcome. of course i think teachers should be paid more, particularly the best one and ther